In The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power‘s upcoming third season, we’ll once again see the adventures of Elrond, one of the leaders among the Elves of Middle-earth. But we’ll also be meeting another member of his family, a character J.R.R. Tolkien fans will recognize from the author’s lore: Elrond’s twin brother, Elros.

Elrond and Elros (both played by Robert Aramayo) are half-Elven and half-human, and while Elrond chooses the immortal path (and the pointy ears), Elros decides to become mortal. He founds the island kingdom of Númenor and becomes its first ruler, many generations before the events of The Rings of Power. By the Second Age of Middle-earth, when the Prime Video series is set, Elros has passed away, while Elrond is obviously still around—with a lot more ahead of him, as anyone who’s seen him in Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings movies (where he’s played by Hugo Weaving) well knows.

But thanks to the magic of flashbacks, The Rings of Power takes a moment to show us Elrond and Elros having maybe the most important conversation of their lives, as Elros explains his decision to his brother. At a recent press day for the show, io9 asked Aramayo what it was like playing both brothers together in that scene.

“It was a real challenge in sort of all ways, really. But I really like Elros. I think he’s a good lad,” he said.

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